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He did some pro Zionist stuff and I guess people think that doing something bad means actors won't get work, despite the many examples of actors being terrible people and still getting hired.
Edit: Just an fyi I'm not interested in debating Zionism or Israel and have made 0 statements about my own personal views so attacking me in the comments will at most get a joke or low effort unrelated response x
Yeah, the Zionism is probably the reason none of the other actors are getting anywhere near this level of people's schadenfreude, even though technically the same could happen to any (or even all) of them
Gaten might struggle to get roles because he looks so different that I think he will always be seen as the kid from stranger things but he is a better actor. Sadie Sink and Millie Bobby brown are both fantastic actors. Finn is alright but also already has some solid credits to his name like ‘It’, and Caleb is only a slightly better actor imo but he has a much better Hollywood “look”.
Edit: fantastic actors on the show. I haven’t seen them in anything else but they are objectively good in the show.
Seriously lmao, she was fine when you could write it off as “she’s a kid”, but her older roles are so wooden you could build a decking with them. She’ll be in shitty action films for the rest of her life, maybe even the odd terrible Christmas romance.
Like genuinely she was ok as Eleven, because she mostly played someone who never interacted with human before or yelling with her hands raised. But in Godzilla, Enola Holmes, those Netflix dumpster fire projects, she is just so beyond meh.
Just to add, I think Gaten might be ok because he does stage plays as well and has a beautiful voice when singing. I actually think his unique look might lend to at least one to two more projects on screen but it’s hard to say lol
Gayten has years of Broadway experience under his belt. He's the only one im sure will have a career afterward. Maybe not a movie star but as a working actor.
Many child/teen actors who got iconic, long running early parts aren't "successful" as adults. They got the part for reasons having nothing to do with adult looks and skill, and had it no matter what.
So they're somewhat typecast, haven't developed much range, and also they have a lot of money at a young age, which can lead to laziness and trouble.
It’s easy to criticize performers who grab low hanging fruit… But that industry is crammed and there aren’t a lot of starring roles to spread among good artists.
I don't think he really made any effort to separate himself either. You have a loyal fanbase, and can basically turn on the money/attention faucet whenever you want, why would you want to reinvent yourself and potentially fail?
This. Unless he really up's his acting game, he's got a short career of low budget horror followed by 20 years of small convention appearances, at best.
Particularly child actors. They’re cast because they’re cute kids and a good actor for a kid. A director will hold the kids hand through the process and give them lots of time and direction to get scenes just right. Then they grow up, they aren’t a cute kid any more, and they are competing against much better acting that what landed their first role as a kid and directors expect more of them.
To be fair, I think the writing does a lot of the cast dirty. As much as I love Stranger Things, the actual dialogue doesn't offer them much to do. Really only Gaten, Millie, Sadie, Joe and Natalie get to properly act while the rest just sort of talk at each other in later seasons.
Millie had a much larger role in the first season and everyone jumped at giving her more parts.
Also what her role was in s1 was notoriously one of the hardest thing to do as an actor. Meanwhile Noah has generally been more of a side character, if the inciting character.
Also what her role was in s1 was notoriously one of the hardest thing to do as an actor.
Not being snarky here -- honestly, what did she have to do which was so difficult? From what I recall, she was just quiet and scared looking almost the entire season. Sometimes angry/upset. I am totally ignorant of the requirements for acting and the nuances, but I'd have guessed being quiet, timid, and afraid as a child actor in your first role would.. match your natural feelings?
Not pooping your pants. Her and David Harbour were the only ones who were clean and dry, everyone else's pants looked like the chocolate river in a Willy Wonka tour.
Finn Wolfhard has probably been the busiest of them all, the actor who plays Dustin is probably going to do stage acting full time now, Sinclair actor has been getting consistent work too.
The "Zionism Is Sexy" is just the icing on the cake. People joke about this kid not having a career after Stranger Things ends because he hasn't really had a career outside of Stranger Things during all the filming hiatuses.
Someone posted this in r/rareinsults yesterday. A person in the comments section asked and I said a shorter version of what you said and rareinsults permanently banned me…
In short, the belief and support of creating a Jewish ethnostate. The issue with it, is that to create that ethnostate, Israel has seized a lot of land violently, is currently bombing the shit out of Palestine, and also, they treat non-jews as having less rights there (for instance, I don't think Palestinians who live in Israel can get married legally).
"Zionism is a modern nationalist movement, emerging in the late 19th century, that supports the self-determination and statehood of the Jewish people in their ancestral land, Israel (historically Palestine)"
Yeah the reality is, most people in real life don’t care about what’s going on in the Middle East at all. Even the people on the internet are mostly pretending to care more than they actually do.
I don't think this is true, based on the number of Palestinian flags I've seen in my own and other cities. Not to mention rallies, other protests, etc.
Still arguably a very vocal minority. A couple hundred flags/people showing up for rallies in cities with populations in the millions does not equate to "most people caring about conflict in the middle east."
If you poll the general public about anything happening outside of their own countries, odds are the majority of answers will be “don’t know/don’t care” because of fucking course they would be
It's absolutely because of that those people are saying his career is over. Pro-Gaza types have a massively inflated sense of their own importance and how much the average person cares about Gaza (spoilers: not at all)
Literally 80% of complaints about last season of the show is about his acting skills. Some people dislike him for being a Zionist, but most definitely hate his acting more.
Moreover, there are way more Zionists in Hollywood than in the general public. So this tends to lend him points for the people that are going to actually hire him.
Reddit's hard on for Israel and Palestine is manufactured as well. There is a lot of evidence that Israel and Qatar are astroturfing a lot of the pro-Israel and pro-Palestine stuff here through paid mods and coordinated Discord groups
teenage global stars that got their fame from a tv show that just dissappeared
Fucking thank you. This is clearly about the phenomenon that hit child stars deal with - a huge influx of fame, then nothing. It has literally nothing to do with Israel or his acting ability (which is perfectly fine by the way, as the general internet consensus has been thus far until this meme hit...this thread is just weirdly negative but I mean... it's reddit).
Nah there’s been criticisms of his acting since season 2, we just didn’t feel right critiquing a kid like that. Now that he’s older and his acting still isn’t good, it feels right to call him out for it
Finn and Millie Bobby were the best kid actors in Season 1 and by far the worst actors as adults in Season 5....it's actually painful to watch them try to act now.
watching him in interviews i get the sense Caleb (Lucas' actor) has done the most inner work (e.g. therapy etc.) of the four of them, and I suspect that enables you to be a better actor.
He also has a role in an upcoming animated movie by the spiderverse and kpop demon hunters studio, Optimistically I feel like in 10 years he could mirror Michael B Jordan's career path.
Definitely Dustin. Gaten Matarazzo has developed as an actor with every season, while the others have stagnated. He and Sadie Sink are easily the two best of that age group.
Personally, I think the guy who plays Dustin is pretty good. They tend to pair him up with the older actors and give him more interesting things to do as well, which helps.
Honestly I think that’s evidence that he is pretty decent. Because when Noah was doing scenes with Winona or Maya he just felt really weak in comparison.
I personally didn't know about the pro Zionist stuff until just now. I assumed it was because he was a terrible actor who brings down the show with his terrible acting.
This is what im going with. Almost all of the other actors either had robust careers before or have been getting roles in between seasons. Iirc the guy who plays Will Byers has ONLY been doing ST.
We'll see how it goes. He's not the best on the show, but maybe having ST will net him one or two more roles before he goes back to normal life.
I've heard about the Zionism thing & I'm sure that's part of it. But the kid is a TERRIBLE actor. Like comically bad compared to.... Everyone else in the show.
He's done because he sucks as an actor.
He is good in It, was never a huge fan of his acting in ST though, at least not until the final season, his big brother talk with Holly really standing out. Not that he is terrible, but he is one of the more uninteresting main characters, but part of that is the writing and one-and-done fan favorites stealing the show compared to him being the straight-man protagonist that more zany characters play off of (like Leonard in The Big Bang Theory). Also doesn’t help that it seems like the majority of his plot (other than explaining the plot in exposition dumps, being a DM and all) is a relationship drama with his girlfriend Eleven and his unreciprocated best/closeted friend Will being in love with him and jealous of her because of it.
Finn's never bad. He might not be knock it out of the park great, but he's been completely passable in everything I've seen him in.
But to your point, after the early seasons of ST and It there were HIGH expectations. But between those two and Ghostbusters, he probably had little need to work again.
I mean they are not winning any ocsars for it but their acting is about the level of the 80s kid buddie movies like th goonies that influenced it so much.
But yea he didn't really stand out and his character is written to be pretty forgettable.
Right like multiple other actors on the same show have had no problem finding other roles while it was still airing. There were plenty of huge gaps in production. If you're not finding new roles until now... wtf have you been doing all this time?
He’s been in college at a very good US university and spoke about how it was impossible to find the time to do the press tour and school at the same time, and you think he’d be looking for other work on top of stranger things?
Its from a movie called Galaxy Quest, the premise of which is a set of characters from a sci-fi show (Star Trek) who are doomed to Comicons until .. watch the movie, it is hilarious.
Daniel Radcliffe has FU money. He has picked some of the weirdest yet amazing roles. Anything he’s in I’ll watch because I know he’s not just doing it for the money.
Check out Swiss Army man and miracle workers. It’s hilarious.
Daniel randcliff has hit the rare combo of being crazy fucking rich but super chill.
Watching him in interviews, he's a proper nerdy dude and has lived in the same London apartment with his girlfriend for years now. He made millions of Harry Potter and didn't buy a mansion or anything, he got a nice place in London, where he likes living, he talks about it in interviews, he knows his neighbors and the area and Like's being in the city where he knows people and has friends and knows the local theater scene.
He doesn't care about awards or making more money or staying famous. He Like's acting, and has said in interviews his agenta job is to just look for anything fun. That's why he is in such wierd ass movies with varying levels of budget, where he gets to have guns bolted to his hands or play a hunchback working for a mad scientist. Or grow devil horns. Or show up in random performances.
He knows that stuff isn't gonna make millions or get him an Oscar, but it's fun to act in. He has funded wierd film projects just becuse he likes the script and thought it was fun worth it even if it wont be big or make back his money.
Dudes just a goofy wierdo who likes acting for the sake of acting, not for awards or fame.
And then you have other people who acted in Harry Potter unable to get any roles and struggling to find anything that will take them
Radcliffe has a Tony for Merrily We Roll Along which just released a pro cut of the production. So yeah he “doesn’t care” but he also does care for putting in a quality performance.
That one looks so good, i haven't seen it yet. his movie "Horns" made me cry laughing with some of it's weird humor, only to make me ugly sob at it's ending! I for the life of me cannot sit through "the Woman in Black" because a local radio host made a joke about that roll being his "Scary Potter roll" and now I can't think about the movie without smiling or watching it and randomly laughing... Damn you, radio host...
What? Of the three main kid actors from Harry Potter, two have gone on to successful careers playing a wide range of roles and the third didn't try and by all accounts never intended to.
The answer is that he cannot act - not that he said something about Israel like 2+ years ago.
He got cast as a child in a role that meant he spent basically all season one missing - or ‘dead’. By the time he actually needed to do some acting it was too late to change him out. No one else will cast him now
Well, there's the Zionist stuff, but actors are constantly pigeon holes and can find it very difficult to get a vastly different role than one they are well known for. There's literally a word for it: Typecast (though it's more related to their physical features or mannerisms). Being typecast basically relegates you to the same role rehashed into another film.
It's also especially funny because they think being a Zionist in Hollywood Is bad, like bro, Hollywood is like 60% Jewish, and often has heavy ties to Israeli businesses, being a Zionist isn't uncommon or unheard of in the industry.
Yeah out of all the other child actors he's pretty much the only one I don't hear anything about past Stranger Things. Finn, Millie, and Sadie all have landed numerous roles outside of ST and Dustin and Caleb can always fall back to Broadway.
it's hard for many actors to break out of characters they're associated with
Daniel Redcliffe worked very hard against being seen as HP, he played so many weird minor movies
However these people can also live for free, they just need to show up at comicon-type conventions for 20-minutes interviews and they are sincerely are set for live, even withhout the earnings for the actual series\movie
This is because there are plenty of those conventions, for each of them any even minor character from a major series is a huge boost to partecipation, they throw their entire budget at it
I think the real answer here is that he just isn't a very good actor. He's certainly the weakest cast member on Stranger Things. I doubt he gets much work after ST outside of direct to Netflix stuff.
I do Not know what he did, but Most Child actors have one big role and thats it. The Carreer is over After that.
Look at the Harry potter Cast. They had so many Kids and who got a big role After that?
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