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You mean farming? I guess most Americans don't have either the farmland nor the storage capacity to grow and store a years worth of garlic.
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As garlic is a seasonal product the US has to rely on importing it, here are the US garlic imports from 2021:
Funnily enough most was imported from China, so if garlic in the US is getting more expensive, it's Trumps import tax again.
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A bucket with dirt is still land you're farming on, even if it's in your flat. It might be easy to grow garlic at home, but I literally do not have enough space for a single bucket of dirt at home.
Also the way most of you calculate cost is wrong. You'll also have to add the cost per square meter you're paying. To this add your cost of electricity and heating per square meter. Do this in a Manhattan flat and you'll be very sad, very quickly.
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I have the feeling that a weed plant is more cost effective than garlic. So my top tip is to sell weed to afford your garlic /S
We either don't have the land, or sometimes the soil needs a lot of work to be able to grow anything, or we don't have fenced off land and wild animals eat and/or destroy crop. Every time my wife starts her garden it's either destroyed by animals or eaten by them. Our last home the soil was riddled with garbage and plastics. We couldn't get anything but grass to grow there and even that was dying slowly.
Edit: for clarity I'm not talking about garlic specifically. We, as in my wife and I, don't grow garlic. We grow all kinds of vegetables, well we try to. I also don't mean the country as a whole when speaking about land I mean individual citizens.
I spent every summer on a farm growing up shits hard as fuck. Backbreaking even. Being a cable lineman is way easier than farming if you don't have all the nice machinery to assist. Mad respect for keeping your garden alive.
Thank you! Yea I did the same growing up. It’s my grandparents farm, so from a kid to a teen, I was always out helping my pap with chores. A lot of fond memories. But you’re right, it was back breaking work.
There was a linkedinlunatics post a awhile ago about poverty being a mindset that you can buy a tomato, plant it, get 5 more plants get 25 more from that then you just need to sell tomatos blam self made millionaire, I don't know if it was parody or not (account wasn't know for it) but people like that do exist that have never spent a day actually gardening let alone industrial agriculture, I garden probably an hour a day on a 1/3rd of an acre and probably grow less than 1% of my calories.
You could better than that, 1/3 could probably provide 1/2 of someone's calories with intensive gardening methods and the right plant choices BUT:
1. You have to have 1/3 acre!
2. You have to have the time and energy to spend an hour a day!
3. You have to have the money to get started, there are some expenses you can't avoid
4. It's very easy for things to go wrong and you loose everything
5. You may have to do it for a few years before you get a good level of success, it takes practice
6. You have to live somewhere the HOA/city/county won't fine you for doing it and even cut down your plants
7. It takes more than an hour a day during certain parts of the year
So yeah, while it's possible, most people just can't manage it, financially or physically. There are certain areas and certain people it might work better for. Maybe rural areas which are food deserts, and they already own their land and maybe have children that can/are willing to help in the garden a little, it could take the edge off a little bit and get some better nutrition. That's a lot of ifs though.
Absolutely! I have been hobby gardening for years, and I think I finally saved a little money this year, though only if you don't count stuff I bought previous years. So, I still haven't really saved anything.
Did you plant the butter in soil? Just because it is a plant doesn’t mean they grow in soil.
Butter actually roots in water, just tie it on top of a bowl with only one corner submerged and it should root in about 3 days. After a week of its rooting then you can carry it to a pot and plant it, however don't use soil, you need plain greek yogurt. I have been doing this for years, haven't bought butter for personal use since I started (Had to buy it a few times when I made deserts for very large groups but that was a handfull of times)
I don't whats the issue with your bread as my bread grew just fine in a regular pod. I heard some companies bake their bread extra long to fully kill it so that you can’t plant it, maybe yours is such a case
I literally just saw a guy asking what to do with a garlic plant he didn’t expect to grow after putting a piece of garlic in soil. Or maybe it was an onion
This reminds me of a technologist I heard say with regards to creating AI dogs as companions “get me a boy dog and a girl dog and I can make you a dog”
idk about everyone else, but we couldn't even have it with spaghetti anymore, because a pack of 8 pieces tripled in price where i live, and it's not even worth it if we don't just make it ourselves.
1) roast a bulb of garlic, 2) squeeze into a stick of butter, 3) mix, 4) lather a piece of bread in your new compound butter & Italian seasoning, 5) top with cheese and put in the oven at 350°, 6) wait to pull the bread until the cheese has golden brown crispy bits, but clearly still stretches. 7) please turn off your oven
Edit: some dude was worried about burning his house down.
Knekkebrød (dry shelf stable "bread" thats like a cracker, looks like a Husman or equivalent type), sausage, cheese, cucumber slice and some spreadable cheese. In other words a perfect Sunday breakfast.
When you roast garlic right it gets very soft and almost as spreadable as butter itself. So mixing the roasted garlic and butter is actually very simple mixing.
We're talking about how expensive store-bought garlic bread is and motherfuckers are out here turning their thermostats up to butter softening temperature.
Various forms and ways to mash the sweet sweet garlic oil out of the clove when it's roasted. Smoosh with a fork, literally squeeze with tongs or fingers, hit it with a tenderizer... your choice of melee damage will usually suffice.
I recommend olive oil instead of butter because oil has a higher smoke point, so less likely to burn the bread when you bake it to melt the cheese.
See poor people? It's easy. Just perform another 20-30 minutes of labor.
Poor people: I already have two jobs and five days a week I don't get home until 9pm after working a 12 hour shift. If I have to make my own garlic bread I will shoot myself in the goddamn face.
Yup! I make homemade bread because it is so delicious, but I definitely know that it's a privilege to have the time and energy to do so, considering I don't have a problem affording store-bought bread.
spread butter on bread (cheap white bread or hamburger buns works fine)
sprinkle with garlic salt or garlic powder+salt. And oregano/italian seasoning if you have it.
throw under broiler for a few minutes.
It’s a marginal amount of extra time and effort compared to just making regular toast.
I’m sure properly roasting garlic, then making a spread mix, then making the toast is better. But we’re talking about replacing freezer-aisle instant garlic bread here, not replacing a restaurant meal.
From my childhood: 1 piece of white bread. Spread a little butter on it. Sprinkle on some powdered garlic to taste. Place on cookie sheet with other slices and set in oven on broil.
Stand there and stare at it until golden brown, because if you walk away or try to use a timer they will burn.
My parents bought a loaf pretty much every time we had pasta growing up. As an adult, I don't care for it anymore. The loaves that come untoasted have way too much butter.
are you lying about being from America? garlic bread is made and sold by every single grocery store and they also sell multiple brands of frozen garlic bread in every one of those stores. Or are you just saying you've personally never seen someone buy and cook one? Because technically I don't think I've ever seen my neighbors bringing in groceries in the last 15 years but I know that they do so I don't think I'd go online and make a comment like "I have never known a neighbor to buy groceries, gardening takes like under an hour a day"
I'm a Pole and I often bought premade ones but it's more of a baguette filled with garlic butter and it's not prepacked but freshly baked and available in the baked goods section of nearly every self-service store.
We have stuff like that in our bakeries. Even Walmart has it. But the frozen ones are convenient when you don't live in a town with a store, so you have to drive an hour into the nearest town and need to stock up on stuff.
Texas Toast is in the grocery store, it's basically 2 inch thick garlic bread, and it was awesome.
It's now thinner, smaller, and like $11.
It's way better than my moms version of plain white bread in the toaster with garlic powder on it. But it also is not worth it, back when it was $3 a box and the pieces were these huge 400 calorie sides to your spaghetti, fucking awesome.
lmao so many wannabe chefs are angry that you said that. Maybe in super rich towns it's rare or something but frozen garlic bread was enjoyed by every middle and lower class person I knew. The fancy ones bought the non frozen version that they made and sold at stop and shop for like $2
edit: the people acting snotty about Americans buying garlic bread are not the ones saying you can make a cheap version with wonder bread and garlic powder. I'm aware of this, it's delicious, but it's not what I was referring to when I said wannabe chefs.
Bro garlic bread is just the price of a loaf of bread and butter. Why are people buying premade garlic bread?
Go buy some Garlic Plus seasoning, some butter and some bread. Butter the bread, spread the garlic plus, stick it in the oven on broil until crispy, then eat.
Takes 10 minutes or less and you can make as much as you have butter, bread and garlic plus.
If you're slightly bougie, you can make a garlic compound butter which cuts it from 3 steps down to 2.
People complaining about the price of pre-made, pre-packaged garlic bread should be laughed at.
How much are you paying for garlic bread? Name brand frozen stuff is $4. I feel like that is still better than roasting my own garlic for 1 hour when I am looking for a quick meal and still needing to buy the actual bread. 🤷♂️
Making dinner rolls and coating them with excessive quantities of garlic butter is your duty as a human. Once you learn the simple tricks to making that shit like lil Caesars crazy bread but better, it's like Pandoras box; you just end up accidentally making them because its so easy. Magically garlic twists start appearing at dinner.... Then stromboli, then before you know it you've started a micro bakery to feed the fiends.
Okay maybe im projecting a bit here but it do be like that.
I'm not sure you know what a staple food is... if you might be about to be trapped in your house for a week, is garlic bread one of the 1st 3 food things you'd grab?
Garlic bread is a way to make stale bread palatable. It's a poverty food, which is not to deny that it's very good. But if you've only encountered it as something you buy premade, you probably have a grossly inflated idea of its cost and use.
French toast and bread pudding have similar origins. Bread sat out too long and is now indistinguishable from hard tack? Soak it in honey, sugar water, or just straight up booze and a couple of eggs, it'll be fine!
Although I suppose that eggs are probably on the "too expensive to be poverty food" list at this point. We need an alternative.
I stopped cooking burgers and roasts, and have transitioned to ground turkey for everything else. I think I've bought beef less than 5 times this year.
We don't eat a lot of red meat at my house but I'm low on iron at the moment so we have been trying to eat it more. The cheap cuts of beef were all over $10 per lb. I remember when you could get a whole chuck roast for $12 per roast. and that would be enough for a large family dinner. I used to get corned beef for around $15 and it was closer to $25 when I went the other day.
It is not a staple food. It’s a convenience food, which has been on the downward trend for the last 5 years. Largely attributed to people working from home.
Economy collapsing? Redditors really need to get outside more. Paying extra to have someone spread butter on a piece of bread for you is a luxury not a staple
People are still buying all manner of expensive consumer goods and electronics. They're not so poor that they can't afford garlic bread. SMH.
Dude a can of tuna went from 60 cents to a dollar twenty, the most economic staple foods are the ones that got a disproportionate amount of price inflation
Literally the only right answer and the least amount of upvotes...it has nothing to do with the economy. You should avoid food that can trigger acid reflux and foods with garlic or tomato are highly acidic.
Correct answer buried under 5 pages of people trying to justify that garlic bread forms the fundamental basis of American national cuisine and economy. People will literally just say anything about America on here lol.
Also both garlic and bread are cheap as shit. So is butter. The cost of running your oven to bake it is probably higher than the garlic. I'm a little confused.
Heck, a full loaf of garlic bread from my local bakery here is like 2.50. Honestly cheaper than making it yourself if you don't have all the stuff to make bread
Unfortunately true. I had a small piece last night and had reflux for hours. I can still eat more or less whatever I want, but I have to time it right, and the night after my shot was not the night.
I’ve been traveling a bit and fancy restaurants now have an ozempic section on the menu. Very small yet fancy servings. In theory people ate salad as a way to fool their stomach into being satisfied with low calorie density foods. But you don’t have to do that if you are on a gpl1 drug. Three bites of a high calorie density delicious meal make you fully satisfied. Supposedly. I’m not on them.
To be fair most restaurant salads from my experience have been just completely ridiculous as far as the size goes. Like one that I went to, the salad had to be at least half a pound of lettuce, two grilled chicken breasts, a quarter cup of Parmesan cheese, probably half a cup of Caesar dressing, bacon bits, croutons, and a fucking breadstick. Why the fuck would they include a breadstick, is that some sort of sick joke? The point I'm making is you put literally split the salad between three people and it would be a light lunch, otherwise it was like 1200 calories. Unless I've eaten literally nothing all day or I'm a bodybuilder or a lumberjacker something like that, you don't need that many calories in one fucking meal.
Seriously, lol. I'm on the east coast and we pretty must lost 90% of the diners in the area, but the salad descibed here could really only be found at a diner, and I miss it.
Buddy uses Tirzepatide. He has major health issues. He can still eat 30 plates at a buffet… it doesn’t give him an off switch. He just doesn’t get hungry. Never thinks of food. But when he does, he can eat whatever. He just has been eating better. Being on it makes him want to eat less in his mind. Spending money on that, you are invested in it working. He’s lost 10% of his body weight so far.
That’s how he explained it to me at least.
I thought it was a “imma puke if I eat anything med.” I’m sure it affects people different. But he’s doing better. That’s my only point of reference.
It's called "food noise". For some people, it never turns off. It's hard to describe. So there's full, where you feel like you can't really eat anymore. Then there's satiated, where you feel satisfied and content in your meal. For some people, they can be full, but never truly reach a point of being satiated. There's always that little voice in the back of their mind screaming dude winter is coming and you need all the fucking calories. You never know when your next meal will be, so go ahead and pound another little debbie.
GLP-1s, for reasons unknown to us, seem to be able to turn off that little voice; the "food noise". So when your friend is saying he wants to eat less, he's not saying he wants smaller portions. He's saying that the all consuming desire to... consume it all... in his head has grown quiter.
Been on a GLP-1 for 5 months. What the person you responded to said about appetite and food noise is 100% accurate. But I've seen zero impact to my other vices, so im doubtful of the impact on thr addiction center or dopamine cycle in the brain.
Because limited apatites are more inclined to choose mains with more flavor and substance. Say you’re not going to finish your meal, you’re less inclined to get a salad with a bit of steak or salmon on top, instead opting for a main of just the salmon portion and a side. Even side salads are being sold less and less because people just don’t want to fill up. Plenty of folks still enjoy salads, they’re not going away, they’re just not as popular.
If we assume for estimation purposes that the 26.4 stat holds for children, we can estimate that 0.264x0.116 = 3.1% of the population is on GLP-1.
So even if these people were consuming a disproportionate quantity of the garlic bread, I don't think they can account for a huge change in garlic bread consumption.
I think these numbers slightly underestimate the number of users of GLP-1 products. About 4% is measured while independent studies have shown closer to 12% of those polled. Add that to companies like Hims, the numbers are hard to pin down. What we DO know is that the drug is going to be disproportionately distributed to people financially able to eat out more often. With the lion’s share going to middle class Caucasian people.
I love this movie so much. The way all the characters enunciate their words, the intonations and inflections they use, and just the way they talk is so fucking funny for some reason. I don’t think there are many other movies where characters speak the same way. It’s amazing and idek how they managed to do it. Was it just by accident?
I think it's intentional because it's based on a comic book, I think they tried to go for a "comic feel" for the line delivery, it really does feel like you're flipping through the pages of a comic book.
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