A Minnesotan woman stood up to SPPD in St. Paul when officers entered her yard without a warrant. She calmly asks to see a warrant, but the officers had none and instead accused her of obstruction and threatened to arrest her on her own property.

[u/Desperate-Emu4297]

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[u/super_mmm]

This is literally in the constitution

[u/blackout__drunk → u/super_mmm]

Yeah, it’s literally got its own amendment.

[u/StopIt_GetSumHelp → u/blackout__drunk]

Those clearly don’t matter anymore…

[u/lambleezy → u/StopIt_GetSumHelp]

They haven't mattered for a while.

[u/Wonderful-Humor6102 → u/lambleezy]

its no longer affecting minorities and affecting all US citizens. we are becoming powerless as americans. public service has lost sight of its service of the people

[u/boarbora → u/Wonderful-Humor6102]

The hilarious part is that now it's a problem

[u/Wonderful-Humor6102 → u/boarbora]

Yeah exactly but being a miniority we are used to this tbh. I don’t fw the police because I might get killed or I don’t fw not paying taxes bc I’m not white or rich and I will absolutely get incarcerated. I just wish we were more closely with our euro friends

[u/Grand_Dingo6858 → u/Wonderful-Humor6102]

After trump you guys don't have friends anymore, just people who might do business with you still.

[u/No_Foundation468 → u/Grand_Dingo6858]

If we're lucky. That's not a certainty by any stretch of the imagination. Just ask US soybean farmers.

[u/Soilmonster → u/boarbora]

Na, we were commies in the McCarthy era, leftist twats in the Reagan era, progressives in the Bush / Obama era, Dem socialists in Trump 1.0, and now just leftist extremists in Trump 2.0. Folks have been screaming about this shit for a long ass time, sit the fuck down with that “now it’s a problem” bullshit.

[u/seriftarif → u/Wonderful-Humor6102]

Because there is an ownership class and they are the ones being protected.

[u/Free_Dome_Lover → u/StopIt_GetSumHelp]

Trump used the document as toilet paper. Astonishingly the entire constitution with amendments only got his ass partially clean before Miller tongued out the rest.

[u/lostredditorlurking → u/super_mmm]

Yeah it's literally the 4th Amendment, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized".

I guess Republicans only care about the 2nd Amendment. And they will only use it against people they hate, not the tyrannical government.

[u/suejaymostly → u/lostredditorlurking]

Isn't there something about not being forced to quarter troops?

[u/beautyinewe → u/suejaymostly]

That's the 3rd Amendment

[u/angrybox1842 → u/suejaymostly]

Third amendment but generally cops aren't in the same classification as troops.

[u/Helpful_guy → u/angrybox1842]

generally cops aren't in the same classification

It's not even "generally" they're polar opposite.

Troops are civil servants who have an oath to protect US citizens, and they're actually held accountable by a military justice system.

Police are a private militia, hired by local municipalities, and it's been upheld multiple times, even by the Supreme Court, that they do not actually have any duty to protect or serve the public.

[u/The_Disapyrimid → u/Helpful_guy]

"Troops are civil servants who have an oath to protect US citizens, and they're actually held accountable by a military justice system."

usually. we will see what happens when trump inevitably turns them on cities he doesn't like.

[u/oroborus68 → u/Helpful_guy]

Local laws may or may not apply in your area.

[u/Sudden-Pie1095 → u/Helpful_guy]

When the 3rd amendment was written, there was no concept of police. The police force then WERE the militia and military and aristocratic county based soldiers. They are the same in the constitution.

[u/duiwksnsb → u/angrybox1842]

There was a court case exactly about this. Cops tried to enter and use a persons home to surveil a neighboring property. They sued on 3rd amendment violation grounds and won. Apparently the court thought it didn't just apply to military troops.

[u/ILikeDragonTurtles → u/suejaymostly]

Yeah I think that's actually the more relevant amendment. These officers aren't searching her property. They're using it as a staging ground to conduct a (supposed) law enforcement action in adjacent public roads. Even if she's wrong to say they need a warrant, she absolutely can refuse them standing on her property.

[u/Hecticfreeze → u/suejaymostly]

That's the 3rd Amendment, but courts have ruled that it only applies to the military and that police and law enforcement do not count as military. So it doesn't apply in this case

[u/Away-Elevator-858 → u/super_mmm]

Where’s all the treading on a snake people at??

[u/Sebaceansinspace → u/Away-Elevator-858]

Jerking eachother off to videos of Trump being one of the worst human beings on the planet

[u/ItsAWonderfulFife → u/super_mmm]

Should just call it the Constipation, because it don’t do shit no more.

[u/aka292 → u/super_mmm]

Supreme court: hold my beer

[u/Tough_Ad6387]

What's with The gas mask?

[u/augustschild → u/Tough_Ad6387]

a functional way to hide their faces.

[u/Kitty_Maupin → u/augustschild]

It’s probably not gonna work. Once these guys get off shift it’s free game on them. Spat in food. “Oops we’re outa that.” “You didn’t see the sign? We’re closed.” Or just out right denial of serving them. I say we start using that god given right to “refuse service to anyone” they used if against people in the name of bigotry of decades, i say use that shit against them.

[u/Homesick_Martian → u/Kitty_Maupin]

I’ve been seeing quite a few posts of signs stating ICE is not welcome into business’s without a signed judicial warrant. Warms my heart💙

[u/SpecialistArrive → u/Homesick_Martian]

"Errr.. you got a warrant for that McDouble?" Snatches burger "Didn't think so."

[u/decian_falx → u/Homesick_Martian]

You know, that'd be a good way to attack this problem at gas stations. *Armies* are stopped by shortages of fuel. Go to all your local gas stations and ask them to refuse to sell to ICE. Organize boycotts and parking at the pumps of those that don't participate. Patronize those that do. Catchy phrase: "Let them walk."

[u/Homesick_Martian → u/decian_falx]

💯 the only challenge is they are in civilian vehicles and you can buy gas at the pump.

Minnesota needs to do 2 things- carry water guns and lock ice outside. Better catchphrase would be “let ‘em freeze”

[u/Dependent_One6034 → u/Homesick_Martian]

What does the law say?

In England, if you have a sign that says "Dangerous dog, do not enter" and someone enters, and your dog bites them - you are liable because you knew you had a dangerous dog.

I fear a similar thing will be used in the states. "Ice not welcome" may simply become a welcome sign if not done right.

I know these 2 things are different. But it's more about how the signage is written and construed. Especially in the state of the USA right now where the GOV will win...

[u/NickyBarnes315 → u/Kitty_Maupin]

You definitely can outright deny them service. I've seen videos of people doing this all the time. I commend them.

[u/Quirky-Stay4158 → u/Kitty_Maupin]

Have you seen the video of the guy filming ice officers having a lunch?

They are together in uniform maskless laughing and joking. At the beginning they arent concerned with the video. The person taking it is laughing along with them.

Then he starts antagonizing them. Saying he has their faces and they should laugh now.

I haven't been able to find it again. I'd love to. We need to embarrass and humiliate and remove these fuckers from the social construct. They broke it, they deserve to be treated like the rat fucks they are

[u/OrokaSempai → u/Quirky-Stay4158]

Consequences will catch up will all those nazi fucks eventually. Every single one knows what they are doing.

[u/Quirky-Stay4158 → u/OrokaSempai]

I hope so

[u/ralphy_256 → u/Kitty_Maupin]

So happens, I know at least one St Paul Cop bar.

Tapper's Pub, St Paul.

[u/Aggressive_Set8155 → u/Kitty_Maupin]

I just can’t even imagine how much spit they’ve consumed:-)

[u/Naive-Ad-7406 → u/augustschild]

BDSM leather gas masks at home

[u/Infinite-Campaign907 → u/Naive-Ad-7406]

MAGA butt plug is thankfully concealed

[u/Easy_Action_1380 → u/augustschild]

Also cause they were planning on tear gassing those protesters whether they turned violent or not.

[u/maniBchef → u/augustschild]

I know violence is not the answer, but I couldn't stop looking at that guy's ear and thinking what words would just slide right in there to make a difference.....

[u/Junior-Ad-5367 → u/maniBchef]

I get banned if I say that shit

[u/alh1st → u/Junior-Ad-5367]

Fr I’ve been banned for so much less 😭

[u/Xaphnir → u/alh1st]

I've been banned and had appeal rejected for describing gameplay mechanics in a video game

[u/tebbewij → u/alh1st]

I mentioned that we used to erect gallows for traitors not pardons and was banned for a week

[u/idosillythings → u/Junior-Ad-5367]

I got a warning for saying Stephen Miller should be punished like the tax collectors in 1770s American colonies.

[u/Maureengill6 → u/idosillythings]

I got banned for using the word felon with a dash after the first letter.

[u/thiros101 → u/Maureengill6]

I got banned for saying dear leader had a p*nchable face.

Hey mods, I definitely mean pinchable.

[u/Intelligent-Draw5892 → u/Junior-Ad-5367]

Who cares. These asshole mods ban ya for anything

[u/Junior-Ad-5367 → u/Intelligent-Draw5892]

I once saw a video of a guy rigging packages to explode them (non lethal obviously) with blue powder going everywhere when poarch pirates took them but the packages would explode like 3 seconds after they were picked up instead of in their car so I commented « you should’ve put like a 10-15 seconds timer for it to go off in their car » I GIT BANNED 7 DAYS ON REDDIT NOT EVEN THE SUB

[u/AuntieRupert → u/Junior-Ad-5367]

Was it the recent video that spread around not too long ago? The one that had a bunch of people grabbing packages? Because, if so, that video was AI.

What's even crappier is that the mods that ban people for silly things like you got banned for are AI bot automods, and when you file an appeal, they typically don't reverse the bans because AI is reading your appeal and not an actual human, and AI doesn't understand actual offensive stuff versus jokes or satire. I got banned for harassment recently for calling someone an idiot, which, if that's something they consider harassment, then half of reddit needs to be banned. To add to the silliness of my ban, that person said things about me which were worse, and yet they didn't get banned at all when I reported them. Reddit has truly gone down in quality.

[u/RFever → u/Tough_Ad6387]

To hinder their uncontrollable urges to suck each other off.

[u/PrettyPromenade → u/RFever]

This is the correct answer

[u/NotUniqueWorkAccount → u/PrettyPromenade]

I thought it was to hide their Nazi tattoos. But I think them needing protection from sucking each other off is just as realistic.

[u/whyyn0tt_ → u/RFever]

[u/Burnished_Hart → u/RFever]

Come on dude don't compare us suck enjoyers to the police.

[u/Same-Temperature9472 → u/Tough_Ad6387]

The off-duty police are throwing tear gas at the police, so they can arrest people who are against fascism.

[u/thatthatguy → u/Same-Temperature9472]

The Pinkertons are still a thing. They’ve just gone from private union-busting army to private consulting company that may or may not hire people to start trouble and justify the use of force on peaceful protestors. But whatever they do I’m sure it’s all plausibly deniable.

[u/Astine_Grape_5315 → u/Same-Temperature9472]

Bam!

[u/BeefEater81 → u/Tough_Ad6387]

I'm pretty sure this is from the BLM protests/riots during COVID. She has a mask too, and the cop mentioned protesters.

[u/immortalyossarian → u/BeefEater81]

No, this was last month in Saint Paul, not during COVID. Two days before Thanksgiving ICE was trying to get access to a home for an abduction. Hundreds of community members showed up to observe, and the Saint Paul police came out to protect ICE agents, who had lied about being attacked. The gas mask is because they intended to, and did, use pepper spray and tear gas on the protestors that showed up. That was despite the city stating that the police would not assist the feds with immigration raids. People, this neighbor included, were rightfully pissed off.

[u/BeefEater81 → u/immortalyossarian]

I stand corrected. Thank you for providing additional details.

[u/DogCold5505 → u/immortalyossarian]

Ethics aside, this seems really dumb on the part of the police.  I imagine they can be more easily sued (at the city level) than ICE

[u/Own_Oil_7719 → u/BeefEater81]

You’re right, the ICE out here don’t wear SPPD uniforms and don’t assist with any immigration business. Plus there’s no snow on the ground

[u/WaffleHouseGladiator → u/Tough_Ad6387]

They frequently launch tear gas canisters and spray pepper spray at crowds. They did it to a bunch of trick-or-treating kids in Chicago on Halloween.

[u/BlackGuysYeah → u/Tough_Ad6387]

It’s a slightly cooler way to be a coward.

[u/yofuckafucka_ → u/Tough_Ad6387]

they have deployed tear gas in multiple residential communities to get rid of bystanders “obstructing”

[u/Extension-Badger-958 → u/Tough_Ad6387]

They’re larpers who play COD and saw that ICE was hiring

[u/Designer_Mud_5802]

She's not obstructing if they have no legal right to passage (a warrant). Too many cops who seem to think "obstruction" is just a fancy word for saying "blocking".

[u/MaxMulletWolf → u/Designer_Mud_5802]

Obstruction just means "you didn't roll over and accept whatever abuse we choose to heap upon, and then thank us for being hero's"

[u/Super_Sierra → u/MaxMulletWolf]

If you are wondering how this happens, it is an unofficial policy that a lot of places in the suburbs and business districts have with the police, where they remove people they just don't want around. If a business owner or homeowner calls, the police just show up, ticket them and slam them in jail to keep them from 'annoying' people. They do this to exclusively the minorities and homeless in a lot of major cities. AND IT IS IS EXTREMELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. I cannot say this enough, you cannot be arrested simply for standing around on public property, and in most states, they cannot even legally ask for your ID.

The funniest thing is that a bunch of youtubers now go around the country setting up cameras in hotspots fishing for amendment violations, and some have made a LOT of money doing it, because you actually cannot remove someone for just filming, or standing around on public sidewalks, even if the city has outlawed it, those are protected acts by our constitution.

ICE and local police are going to be eaten alive once the lawsuits start pouring in, this is so fucked, but a lot of lawyers and citizens are going to make a lot of money off it once this current administration is out.

[u/CorporateShill406 → u/Designer_Mud_5802]

Obstructing means preventing them from doing their jobs. She's not preventing them from doing their jobs. She's just telling them they need to do it about 10 feet to the left.

[u/THRSALWYSNXTYR → u/Designer_Mud_5802]

She also has a legal right to water her lawn

[u/Natural-Principle-69 → u/THRSALWYSNXTYR]

And if she does that while the cops are there, she'll be arrested for assault on LEO. We're living in a police state

[u/hanks_panky_emporium → u/Natural-Principle-69]

If, while the cops are beating you to near-death you get blood on their uniform, that's considered assault and battery of an officer. I think some bio-related charges too, similar to spitting or urinating on an officer.

[u/annul → u/THRSALWYSNXTYR]

the french national anthem has something to say about watering the fields

[u/rubbasnek]

They're violating her 4th amendment right but these Nazis don't give a shit about the constitution

[u/Full-Resource7910 → u/rubbasnek]

Arguably it's a 3rd Amendment violation. If they can commandeer her front yard to use as a staging area, what's to stop them from walking inside and taking a massive shit in her bathroom (if she's lucky)?

[u/AdAlternative7148 → u/Full-Resource7910]

In the revolutionary war the soldiers would cut holes in the floor boards and shit down into that to avoid going outside in winter. Your concern is not far off from what inspired the 3rd amendment.

[u/Guilty_Helicopter572 → u/AdAlternative7148]

Oh wow, source? I'd love to learn more about that.

[u/HugeConfection7594 → u/Guilty_Helicopter572]

It was in Ken Burns recent documentary on the American revolution. Episode 3 or 4 if I remember

[u/AdAlternative7148 → u/HugeConfection7594]

Yes thats where I got it from!

[u/Hecticfreeze → u/Full-Resource7910]

Courts have ruled that the 3rd Amendment doesn't apply to police and law enforcement, only the military

[u/Homesick_Martian → u/Hecticfreeze]

Cops in the United States have entirely too many freedoms.

Mitchell v. City of Henderson Lech v. City of Greenwood Village Frazier v. Cupp

Just to name a few. End qualified immunity.

[u/RDIIIG → u/rubbasnek]

3rd too I think? Although she isn’t being forced to “house them”, it does have to deal with privacy and property rights.

[u/HelpfulSeaMammal → u/Klowner]

Exercising your 2nd amendment rights in this scenario may also be a way to lose your 1st amendment right (to your own life).

They're breaking the 4th and arguably the 3rd amendments, here. I don't trust them to not take me down right then and there if I were even hinting at myself owning a firearm, let alone have one on my person.

You should be able to exercise your 2nd safely. But we are currently under an Admin that could give less than two fucks about the Constitution they all swore an oath to uphold and defend. They're breaking one, maybe two, in the Bill of Rights on video, right here. What's another extrajudicial murder of some crazy leftist Antifa agitator who was obstructing justice and acting berate and possibly hiding illegal immigrants in her own home (not my view; this is what the defense would be if this video took a turn for the worst).

[u/Klowner → u/HelpfulSeaMammal]

Oh don't worry, I got a warning and my comment deleted for suggesting our constitution means anything anymore.

"Maybe they should do a thing that someone else did and they were pardoned by their governor"

Oh, no, that's a warning. Fuck Reddit.

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[u/HelpfulSeaMammal → u/Klowner]

Removed by Reddit = actually fine comment totally okay with Reddit's rules which some Nazi with hurt fee fees needed censoring because someone on the Internet had a different view than them

[u/AnalNuts → u/HelpfulSeaMammal]

The Nazis will mass report any snowflake melting comments until Reddit removes. Feefees are soft with them

[u/Opteron170]

so her rights basically just get ignored until she takes them to court?

[u/TotalNonsense0 → u/Opteron170]

That's what they mean by "you can beat the rap, but not the ride."

Non Judicial Punishment for civilians should be illegal, but we just accept it as the way things are done.

[u/Intelligent_Cap9706 → u/Opteron170]

That’s what makes it fascism 

[u/PCistheonlyrace → u/Intelligent_Cap9706]

This is what 2A was designed for 🍵

[u/InquisitiveGamer → u/PCistheonlyrace]

That's suicide by police in this video. Problem is getting to the point of a revolt to actually use the 2A in a meaningful way, millions will likely have been killed or locked up by then with society in a much worse situation then we're in now.

[u/Shark7996 → u/Opteron170]

This is what is meant by "if criminals don't get due process nobody does".

[u/AllHailTheMayQueen → u/Opteron170]

And if she takes it that far they will 100% make her life hell

[u/Fair_Quail8248 → u/Opteron170]

Fascist nazis don't care about rights.

[u/MountainMotorcyclist → u/Opteron170]

Well, it depends. 

There is no law without the use of violence to enforce it. You can stay there and talk until you're blue in the face, and they will still continue to be in her yard, violating her right under the law. Why? Because there is no threat of physical force being applied to them. 

This is literally an example of where, if we were willing to actually read what the Constitution says and apply the language as it was used at the time, the Second Amendment is applicable. 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".

What does "well regulated" mean, using the language and context of the 1770's colonial English language? It doesn't mean what we take it as today - a government body providing oversight. At that time, the word "regulated" meant to be, in modern English, standardized. For example, a British soldier in the standing army was called a: "regular". They still use the term to this day, to differentiate between professional full-time soldiers and reserve units. In the 1700's, most military forces consisted of a few people who made warfare their profession, and in times of war, would be filled out by conscripts and duty-men. 

In the context it was written, "well regulated" meant having the guns necessary to be a threat - pitchforks and shovels aren't enough, that would be "poorly regulated". 

So, to modernize the language of the Second Amendment: You can't have a free society unless you and your neighbors can band together against a tyrannical armed force using weapons of sufficient firepower; therefore, you and your neighbors have the right to keep and bear modern "military-grade" weapons.

Now, imagine instead of people arguing about this with their bold words, each of the neighbors walked out armed. It stops being some easily-ignored begging and pleading, and gains the true force of law. 

Now we are talking "The Consent of the Governed". Now we are talking about the Tree of Liberty. Now we are channeling Madison, Jefferson, Franklin, Paine. 

Now the 4th Amendment stops being fucking words on paper, and becomes LAW - an idea that's worth dying for, a New Hampshire state motto. 

I abhor violence. I wish that this was a world in which logic, reason, and compassion were the solution to all challenges. But as they say, you can wish in one hand and shit in the other - and reality will fill one up. 

When those who claim the authority of the State, and in the same act violate the very authority they claim, they are tyrannical. A Republic can only exist if the Governed holds the State accountable. 

So, the real answer to your question is: Her rights don't exist, and are therefore ignored, until they are enforced.

[u/ScoobySnark7]

Fucking nazis.

[u/not_roger_smith → u/ScoobySnark7]

At least OG Nazis put their face and name on their shit.

These punk ass baby nazis won't even own their shit.

[u/SeriousArbok → u/not_roger_smith]

Thats the point. They learned.

[u/not_roger_smith → u/SeriousArbok]

They learned to be punk ass bitches.

[u/Cavscout2838 → u/ScoobySnark7]

Turn the fucking sprinklers on. Fuck em.

[u/NeighborhoodDude84 → u/Cavscout2838]

I guarantee you that they would argue you assaulted them. Within a week there would be tons of videos all over facebook about how dangerous sprinklers are. Fox News would try to make a holiday to commemorate the fallen officers who have gotten too wet on duty.

[u/TruculentTurtIe → u/NeighborhoodDude84]

Wasn't there that one who got hit with a peanutbutter sandwich and went to court to cry he had nightmares and could still smell the pbj in his dreams lol

[u/looselylawless → u/NeighborhoodDude84]

The guy who towed their car was found not guilty. We all see and know what is happening. Good trouble applies now.

[u/HippieGrandma1962 → u/looselylawless]

Jury nullification is a beautiful thing.

[u/TheSammySavage → u/NeighborhoodDude84]

Water is the new WMD

[u/Full_Rise_7759 → u/TheSammySavage]

Dihydrogen monoxide, all people that are exposed to it eventually die!

[u/kre_laa]

They really need to teach these fucking idiots what their jobs are, legally. How tf do you not know you need a warrant?

[u/conniewanders → u/kre_laa]

They knew. They just don’t care. And also assume the average person doesn’t know their rights.

[u/K-Dot-Thu-Thu-47 → u/conniewanders]

Even more than knowing your rights, you have to be willing to assert them. They aren't magical spells where merely invoking the words causes things to happen.

[u/kittenmittens4865 → u/K-Dot-Thu-Thu-47]

But that’s the thing- we’re asking the person with the least power in that situation to hold the line. Maranda rights are read for a reason- it is the duty of our government to advise us of our rights and let us decide whether or not to exercise them.

I agree with you, we have to be willing to speak up and demand our rights. I’m just saying that’s not the way it should be. I’m disgusted by this stuff.

[u/dpdxguy → u/conniewanders]

They knew. They just don’t care

I suspect they neither knew nor cared. They just expect the rest of us to respect their authoritay.

[u/NeighborhoodDude84 → u/conniewanders]

They just dont care. Every single cops would gladly shoot you and your entire family down if the meant they continued to get paid $150k a year to sit a car 99% of the time.

[u/caspershomie → u/NeighborhoodDude84]

dont worry the tax payers will pay the family out and the cop can get a nice promotion for it too

[u/sodook → u/conniewanders]

You and I have an obligation to know and navigate the law within its bounds. The people who enforce it? Legally, officially, from the highest court in the land, have no reasonable obligation to know the law as they are putting it into application.

[u/WaffleBlues → u/kre_laa]

They don't need a warrant because there is no one willing to enforce the law that they need a warrant. Americans are discovering that all their laws are actually worthless if they are selectively enforced, or the state has amassed so much power it doesn't see a need to enforce laws on itself.

[u/THESPEEDOFCUM → u/WaffleBlues]

We're discovering that up until this point, law and order relied on good faith, and that when that good faith is tested, enforcing all the laws we have is an actual logistical nightmare.

It's like if there's one cop while 1000 people are speeding on the highway. We just expected everyone to obey the speed limit for their own safety, but one person saw another person doing it without facing consequences, so we monkey-see-monkey-do'd ourselves into the erosion of common law.

[u/Loud_Fee7306 → u/WaffleBlues]

SOME Americans are learning this. The rest of us knew it all along.

I guess people thought that the selective application of laws to Black, Native and the full spectrum of poor people & political dissenters never counted?

Maybe they didn′t know it happened, somehow, after living their entire lives in this country?

Maybe they just didn′t want to think about it. Out of sight, out of mind?

I don′t know, but the sudden squawks and pearl clutching are exhausting. That ″I don′t recognize my country anymore″ line makes me want to pull my hair out.

[u/bhammyginji → u/kre_laa]

Years ago the Supreme Court ruled that police have no duty to protect anyone. So if they’re not protecting, what do you think they’re doing?

[u/techman710]

Get the fuck off of her property. These ICE fuckers need to have their houses invaded by us because we are looking for our lost cat.

[u/BreedinBacksnatch → u/techman710]

Just give me a list with their names; "extraordinary rendition"

[u/Hon3y_Badger → u/techman710]

I think this is related to the George Floyd murder in 2020. The governor had issued an emergency and deployed the national guard under his orders. I don't know what her rights are in this circumstance; curfews had been ordered. This is very different from what is happening with ICE today.

[u/KORZMASTER → u/techman710]

Isn’t this why you guys have so many guns? Is to stand up to your government when it tries this shit

[u/OkScar393]

Imagine the tears on the day of their trials when they woefully exclaim, “I was just following orders”

[u/Fair_Quail8248 → u/OkScar393]

It will be karma when those fuckers are going down.

[u/RectalSpawn → u/Fair_Quail8248]

You guys know that the vast majority of Nazis weren't really punished, right?

We literally allowed them into our country.

[u/TortexMT → u/OkScar393]

10/10 chance trump is gonna mass pardon all ice agents, bondi, patel, etc

[u/DreadnaughtHamster → u/OkScar393]

You’ve gotta write it like this: “i WaS jUsT fOlLoWiNg oRdErS!!!!!!” (cries in Constitution)

[u/Comfortable_Pea2065]

What’s with the gas mask

[u/akersam → u/Comfortable_Pea2065]

Cops love to gas peaceful protestors.

[u/smellygirlmillie → u/Comfortable_Pea2065]

Hides their faces so they can't be identified when they do shit like this on camera.

[u/OddTheRed]

Nobody ever said "fuck the fire department." Just saying.

[u/Hita-san-chan → u/OddTheRed]

The fire department is active in the community. This weekend they drove Santa through the neighborhoods so the kids could see him.

I literally cannot think of a single positive thing cops have done, but I can tell you a story of the two cops that yelled at me to the point i had a panic attack after I skidded on black ice and got into a single vehicle car accident.

[u/serialshinigami → u/OddTheRed]

Never ask a redditor what fight fighters did to black kids in the 60s.

[u/BrupieD]

This was originally posted in the r/Minnesota subreddit about two weeks ago. There is more context there.

I don't know how much context is needed. This is a pretty commonplace occurrence: ICE or CBP starts trouble, drops some tear gas, and claims that they have no restrictions as to what they do where and when. This brave woman said no, you can't set up shop on my property.

[u/swohio → u/BrupieD]

This is St Paul Police department.

[u/DMM4138]

People sarcastically ask: “I thought you said we were gonna turn into a fascist state. When is the fascism gonna get here?”

Bitch, it’s here.

[u/mazopheliac → u/DMM4138]

Just hasn't come for them yet.

[u/Exotic_Resource_6200]

Minorities have been telling us about this shit for over a century.

[u/Signal-Low-8806 → u/Exotic_Resource_6200]

People say it doesnt happen till it happens to them...

[u/UserNotFound3827 → u/Exotic_Resource_6200]

Indigenous folks have been saying this for centuries too!

[u/shad2107]

this is what happens when you elect a felon, you get even more criminals in the government

[u/chris_doc386]

Grass is looking a little dry, would be a good time to set up a sprinkler and walk away.

[u/Hieroflippant]

Yeah the US seems like a real fantastic country 😃

[u/CraniumParineum → u/Hieroflippant]

It's a shithole.

[u/MoldyHotPocket9 → u/CraniumParineum]

The most expensive third world country you’ll ever visit

[u/CraniumParineum → u/MoldyHotPocket9]

Yep. That is exactly what we've become.

[u/HarryBalsagna1776 → u/CraniumParineum]

Has been for years

[u/Ive_seen_things_that → u/CraniumParineum]

With shit leadership. The GOP has surrendered to fascism. 

[u/Bone_Breaker0 → u/Hieroflippant]

We peaked in the 90’s.

[u/gazzalp23 → u/Hieroflippant]

"Land of the free"....

[u/Hieroflippant → u/gazzalp23]

Home of the slave

[u/GodSaveElway → u/Hieroflippant]

US has been the fucking worst for awhile now and no one is making it great again.

[u/Interesting-End1710]

Can we stop pretending these pretenders are any kind of law enforcement and just call them the Nazis they are

[u/Fair_Quail8248 → u/Interesting-End1710]

Yeah

[u/Aromatic-Air3917]

It's amazing how many videos there are of Karens standing up to fascism while the cowardly American right wing male reveals they were just cosplaying as brave alpha male patriots and are just man babies who wanted to pretend they were tough guys.

[u/Fair_Quail8248 → u/Aromatic-Air3917]

This.

[u/Ecstaticlemon]

Any officer making the claim of obstruction upon being asked for the legal requirement for them being there should be put behind bars for life like the degenerate, dangerous psychopath they are

[u/Opening_Top_5712]

I hope she sues.

[u/CleanProfessional678 → u/Opening_Top_5712]

She needs to contact the ACLU. They could probably at least give her a roadmap for moving forward

[u/throw_up_goats]

The fascist states of America.

[u/cjd166]

Arm yourselves! This is Nazi Germany. You are either on their side or reaching for yours.

[u/lordofming-rises → u/cjd166]

Aren't US citizen fully loaded but yet nothing ever happened? I mean come on its a myth that if people have weapons then they cand defend themselves.

Prime example of nonsense

[u/ColdRainS126 → u/lordofming-rises]

Nah americans are the biggest pussies. They just act tough with their guns but when theres a mass shooting, they stand back and pretend its not their problem, then pray. At least us aussies fight back

[u/Fair_Quail8248 → u/cjd166]

Definitely looks like it

[u/pezzyn]

This is appalling. The officer and his office must be held accountable

[u/nazuswahs]

Who do you call when the police are breaking the law!

[u/MaxMulletWolf → u/nazuswahs]

Smith & Wesson

[u/ColdRainS126 → u/MaxMulletWolf]

Yeh that aren't going to happen. The current americans are the biggest pussies

[u/mthrodrgns1315 → u/nazuswahs]

A lawyer

[u/noodles_seldoon]

They do this shit when police arent required to know the law and can legally lie to you.

[u/Rade_Ad_Bitz]

THANKS MAGA, fuckin Nazi moron fucks

[u/Ok-Complaint9574]

People need to start calling the cops and say there’s an intruder with a gun trying to break in and let them sort it out afterwards.

[u/GermanD2021 → u/Ok-Complaint9574]

Exactly

[u/wezelboy]

Why the fuck is SPPD helping ICE?

[u/OneJackfruit6187]

If you have to break the law to enforce the law, whats the point of laws?

[u/sgettios737]

We fought a foundational war over this, the blood of our forebears was spilled so we could exist under constitutional rule of law rather than tyranny. The founding fathers would roll in their graves. Where are the second amendment bitches who dared correct us after Sandy Hook? Oh right, they’re cowering behind the gas mask…

[u/apunker]

One day the rights of the kids of these officers will be taken away too.

[u/notnewtobville → u/apunker]

One day these 'officers' will be unmasked and their families will know their actions in shame.

[u/MeowMeowbiggalo]

Why are they wearing gas masks? They droppin nerve agents on people?

[u/mr_martin_1]

Waiting for some old Clint Eastwood dude to shoot the shotgun first and then ask "who dere". Missing a few deeth, doo.

[u/BathZealousideal1456]

Stop saying they're nazis! Y'all are wearing this very scary term out.

They're gestapo still

[u/Militant_Triangle]

This is where you go FUCK off Red Coat. Fuck your king and fuck you too.

[u/Shalakofromtempe]

Ice is the Taliban

[u/hoser1]

Traitors….all of them

[u/Fair_Quail8248 → u/hoser1]

Nazis

[u/gleaf008]

Stand your ground.

[u/Nice_Technology101]

Americans are the most controlled souls on the planet

But swear they are free cause they can have pistachio flavored bagels

[u/VastAdagio7920]

Micro penis gathering